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Merijn's HP-UX software for ITRC members

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This page with info and software for the HP ITRC forum members, gathered and compiled by H.Merijn (BR41967 - procura) can be found on www.cmve.net, kindly provided by Clemens van Everdingen, www.hpux.ws kindly provided by Steven E. Protter, and on perl.org kindly provided by the nice people at perl.org, who take donations here. Now that the site has grown to a whopping 5 Gb, with a throughput of over 75 Gb each month on average, I should be extremely grateful for the space and bandwidth provided by these nice people.

When bookmarking this site, please use the perl.org link, since it has a much higher bandwith available than the other three.

I'll just keep it to these pages, and hope it will suffice. Though I notice that the main page gets longer and longer. I have split it into sections and pages already, but might split up more in the near future. Please ask questions through the forum.

• It is unavoidable, yet quite natural, that the site will appear differently styled to various users. That is because software is imperfect, and some applications are better than others. I do not support any browser. I chose to follow the path of web standards. The more conformant your software is, the better it will be at rendering my site.
  That is why this page is best viewed with Opera or Firefox. Safari, Chrome, Mozilla, K-meleon, or Beonex, and even Amaya. Lynx, or w3m should be safe. When using M$-IE, expect blue screens (but you expect those anyway). I considered setting this page as navy on purple for M$-IE users to discourage it's use, but decided against it, as you obviously already have one problem too many ☺
• Consider HP Porting Center for other software or more recent updates.
• Have a look at DSPP developers edge and GCC binaries
• The ITRC Forum Etiquette by Patrick Wallek should be mandatory reading for all ITRC members too

All communications about this place please through the ITRC forum, so we all can learn.

Perl

Introductions to Perl

For those that are not (yet) comfortable with Perl, Wendy van Dijk has put up a nice article on use.perl.org titled "Where and how to start learning Perl".

Distributions

Here are binary perl distributions for versions 5.8.0 through 5.8.8 prepared for Oracle (meaning that you should be able to build DBD::Oracle using this perl, but that it is not included in these builds) built with GNU gcc. HP C-ANSI-C builds on request, but you should be able to do these yourself.

As by accidental mistake, I have built all 5.8.7 and 5.8.8 distributions with -DPERL_DONT_CREATE_GVSV. This can cause a binary incompatibility (but is was said by insiders that the chance on that is actually close to zero), and also may cause some modules to misbehave. A report was sent, that proved that e.g. the module version does not behave correctly. I apologize for any inconvenience caused by this, and have put new 5.8.8 build up that not suffer this flaw. Choose carefully.

• As of perl-5.8.2, I only ship builds where defined-or is integrated;
• The 64bit versions have some test problems with Date::Calc. These are already passed on to their maintainers. This proved to be a bug in GNU gcc's optimizer. As of perl-5.8.5, Date-Calc is shipped with optimization set to -O0, which makes all tests pass;
• No SSL and XML stuff in 11.00/64, 11.11/32, and 11.23/32, because I don't have matching libraries. The HP Porting center has told me that they are awaiting new hardware, which will enable them to ship 64bit packages pretty soon now;
• As of 5.8.7, SSL and XML stuff is included in the 10.20 builds, but expat and OpenSSL are expected to be installed for this to work.
• Tk is now 804.027_502, which builds out of the box now on HP-UX 11.00. Tk-TreeGraph now included after the author has fixed the code to match the standards;
• perl-5.8.9 will be released within weeks now, RC1 was released on 11 Nov 2008 Perl 5.10.0 has been released on 18 Dec 2007.

Release info:

Jarkko Hietaniemi also runs a site for CPAN with the links to perl binaries for HP and other Operating Systems.

My builds are different from the default HP distribution. I've included a different set of (IMHO) useful modules (versions might vary across the different builds). Some of these come as default in the CORE set of modules, others are fetched from CPAN. The versions mentioned in the table below shall only be expected in the next available build:

There's no guarantee I didn't throw in one or two other useful modules that are not listed. And some modules might not be buildable in 64bit perl for whatever reason. You'll have to find out yourself. One way to see what is included in the build is:

  # /opt/perl/bin/perldoc perllocal

If there proves to be need for extra modules that sometimes prove hard to be built, like Tk, I might add them here.

Installation

Install from compressed archives

To install it, do something similar to:

  # cd /opt
  # bzip2 -d </tmp/perl-5.8.3-gcc-3.3.2-11.00-elf64-ora.tbz | tar xvf -

And add /opt/perl64/bin to your $PATH, preferably in /etc/PATH, but be sure to put it before /usr/contrib/bin, where old perls might live.

Install from Software Depots

Medio March 2005, I started experimenting with converting my distributions to software depots, the way HP's porting center ships them. The first effort has lead to a deport that contains perl-5.8.6-dor for HP-UX 11.00 both the 32bit and the 64bit build. In a depot, you can force the destination folder, and swinstall registers the installed software, which has obviously some advantages. To install it, use something similar to:

  # swinstall -s /tmp/perl-5.8.8-dor-11.00.sd perl

which will install both 32bit perl (/opt/perl) and 64bit perl (/opt/perl64), but it still won't alter /etc/PATH, for reason that I can't predict which version you are going to use by default. If you prefer to install only one of the two versions:

  # swinstall -s /tmp/perl-5.10.0-11.23-ipf.sd perl.perl5-32
  # swinstall -s /tmp/perl-5.10.0-11.23-ipf.sd perl.perl5-64

Since there is no need for the files to be of any specific user, I did not set it to a specific user ID. Just for housekeeping, you might want to consider 'chown -R root:sys /opt/perl*' after installation.

GNU gcc

Distributions

The binaries available from here should serve as a start point only!

It is highly recommended to rebuild your own gcc from scratch using the versions available from here, because GNU gcc will create new include files from the ones available on your system, likely not to be the same as they are on mine.

All gcc's available below include recent binutils and gdb, except for HP-UX 11.23 which is unsupported for gdb, as gdb's configure shows:

  ia64*-**-hpux*)
    # No gdb or ld support yet.
    noconfigdirs="$noconfigdirs ${libgcj} readline mmalloc libgui itcl gdb ld"
    ;;

Newer versions for gcc and/or binutils might be added here when they are released. I only make gcc's available for which the installation enabled me to build and test the most recent perl without errors.

For the PA-RISC architecture (HP-UX 11.00 and HP-UX 11.11 (11i), 32bit and 64bit objects do not mix. Period. This means that you need a separate GNU gcc compilers to generate 32bit code and 64bit code. For both it is advisable to pass the -mpa-risc-2-0 flag.
On Itanium, one compiler is capable of generating both 32bit objects, which is the default, or 64bit objects, using the -mlp64 compiler command line option.

The 3.4.3 version of gcc available in the download section includes binutils 2.15 and gdb-6.2.1. I know that by the time I uploaded the builds gdb-6.3 was already out, but I'm having trouble building recent gdb's in 64bit mode so I postpone those to later, where I either replace the current builds or include it in the next gcc builds.

The 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 versions of gcc available in the download section includes binutils 2.16.1 and gdb-6.3.

The 4.0.3 versions of gcc available in the download section includes binutils 2.16.1 (the 64bit tree has snapshot 20060311) and gdb-6.4.

The 4.1.0 version of gcc available in the download section includes binutils 2.16.1 and gdb-6.4.

I have trouble using GNU gcc 4.0.x in 64bit mode on development version of Perl on HP-UX 11i (11.11), and I'd advice you to install 3.4.5 if you are about to use 64bit and/or threads. GNU gcc version 4.0.3 does not show these problems, and should be safe.

GNU gcc 4.1.0 does NOT build out of the box in 64bit more on PA-RISC. The gcc folk blame binutils. Under investigation. When you want to walk that road, you need a cvs snapshot of binutils, and not use GNU ld.

Installation

Install it like this:

  # cd /usr/local
  # bzip2 -d < /var/tmp/gcc-4.0.1-64-11.00-elf64.tbz | tar xf -

or from the depot:

  # bzip2 -d /tmp/gcc-4.0.2-11.11.sd.bz
  # swinstall -s /tmp/gcc-4.0.2-11.11.sd gcc

And add /usr/local/pa20_64/bin to your $PATH, preferably in /etc/PATH.

When your gcc starts complaining about size_t, you have probably installed a 11.00 build on a 11i machine. Choosing the correct build is your key to success.

Building your own from source

Here is an example for building gcc-3.4/64 on HP-UX 11.11 using gcc-3.3.3 64bit available below, installed on /usr/local/pa20_64 and GNU utilities (like make, flex, and bison) available on /usr/local/gnu/bin. Modify the latter to where these can be found. Extract the source tarball to something that will look like gcc-3.4-20030820, and then link 'ln -s gcc-3.4-20030820 src' to enable below:

  #!/usr/bin/sh

  export CONFIG_SITE=
  export CC="gcc -mpa-risc-2-0"
  export PATH=.:/usr/local/pa20_64/bin:/usr/local/gnu/bin
  export PATH=$PATH"":/usr/bin:/opt/ansic/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/opt/langtools/bin
  export PATH=$PATH"":/opt/imake/bin

  rm -rf obj
  mkdir obj
  cd obj
  ../src/configure \
      --enable-languages=c,c++ \
      --prefix=/usr/local/pa20_64 --with-local-prefix=/usr/local/pa20_64 \
      --with-gnu-as --with-as=/usr/local/pa20_64/bin/as \
      --with-gnu-ld --with-ld=/usr/local/pa20_64/bin/ld \
      --disable-shared \
      --disable-nls \
      --host=hppa64-hp-hpux11.11

  make bootstrap-lean
  make install

Will configure the latest source for hppa64-hp-hpux11.11 using gcc-3.3.3 and builds it. make install will overwrite the port made available from here. Get the shell snippets that I use to build gcc here for 10.20 (32 bit only), 11.00, or 11.11.

All versions will be installed under /usr/local. To build gcc you will need at least bison and flex.

Statistics

ITRC forum statistics posted on the forum usually got truncated, here are the full versions, these are generated with a bunch of Perl scripts. I have tried to explain the numbers here.

Alex Lavrov has created a website where above stats are more interactive. He also has put the throughput statistics (clock on every last digit of the year in the table above to see my graphs) in a barchart. This might be how we, as ITRC users, perceive the forum availability and respons time.

Site statistics

And I've collected some stats from three sites, which shows that I'm fulfilling the need of at least a few people with these pages ☺

The fastest mirror now provides me statistics on a daily basis by e-mail.

Beepz hasn't been accessible for ages, so I removed the links.

And the top 25 of overall downloaded files (statistics not included). Minus signs do not mean that the file is not downloaded, but only shows that that file did not make it to the reported top-n downloads of that site.

Development

All builds and ports are developed locally on the machines available:

• HP 9000/rp3410/2, HP-UX 11.11
• HP 9000/D370/1, HP-UX 11.11
• HP 9000/rp2470/2, HP-UX 11.00
• HP 9000/L1000/1, HP-UX 11.00
• HP 9000/D390/1, HP-UX 10.20

All using both the latest available HP C-ANSI-C compiler and/or the GNU gcc C compiler installed (probably a very recent port).

As our last customer is now upgraded to 11.00, the 10.20 machine is about to be upgraded to 11i, leaving me no machine to run 10.20 anymore. Urgent calls have to hurry.

Don't worry about existing stuff. I will not remove what's already here.

The Download section has moved to a seperate page.

Assorted useful/useless links

• CPAN module search
• File formats
• PCRE, the Perl Compatible Regular Expression library that puts power in your C sources
• Who can live without Samba
• ... or X-Term, now with full Unicode support
• Latest Perl snapshots
• Install Cygwin to turn your PC workstation into something actually worth using

A list of my favorite utils, and (one of) their (hopefully still valid) source link(s)

The FAQ section has moved to a separate page.

Other ITRC member contributions

• A. Clay Stephenson's Date Hammer Shell version or Perl version. Sorry to Clay for the long time I misspelled it as caldj;
• Martin Gansser has also set up a page for HP-UX ports titled: HPUX parisc programs, multimedia
• Steven Pritchard has done some porting work on older hpux systems in the past, and the fruits of his effort is still available here.

Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn

© H.Merijn Brand [ 19 Nov 2008 ]